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New version of Prepar3D® simulation software, as well as virtual F-35 and F-22 aircraft
 
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Mi-38 Multi-Role Helicopter Prototype 
 
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Soyuz 2-1A rocket successfully launched from Baikonur today, October 29th 2014 at 07:09 UTC, carrying the unmanned Progress M-25M Spacecraft with 2,350kg of cargo for the International Space Station.
 
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WZ-10 woman pilots

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TANAN 300 diesel-powered compact VTOL Tactical UAS

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TANAN 300 diesel-powered compact VTOL Tactical UAS offers impressive 180km range and eight-hour flight time with a 50kg payload.
 
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Drones: How UAV's Have Taken Over Our Airspace
 
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German Schiebel Camcopter S-100
 
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MQ-8C Fire Scout unmanned helicopter
 
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Antares Rocket Rolls out to Launch Pad with Cygnus ORB-3, before explode
 
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TANAN 300 diesel-powered compact VTOL Tactical UAS

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Taiwan’s stealth missile corvette : Tuo Chiang Class

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Taiwan’s first locally designed stealth missile corvette, the 500-tonne 
Tuo Chiang (Tuo River), began sea trials of its propulsion system. 
The ship was towed from the Lung Teh Shipbuidling Co at the 
port of Nanfangao  in Yilan County and sailed to waters south of Turtle 
Island. 
Each costs about US $ 72.39 million. 
 
The armaments of the vessel, which is described as an “aircraft 
carrier-killer” by media outlets, include eight Hsiung Feng II or eight
 Hsiung Feng III anti-ship missiles, an Otobreda 76mm gun, 12.7mm 
machine guns and a MK15 Phalanx close-in weapons system.  Construction of 
the vessel began in November 2012. 
 
It has a
 top speed of about 70kph and a range of 2,000 nautical miles (3,704km). 
It is 60.4m long and 14m wide, and carries a crew of 41. 
The navy said the ship, with its high mobility, strong firepower and 
stealth features, will enhance national defense.The navy plans to 
commission between eight and 12 of the corvettes. 
 
 
The twin-hulled design
 of the corvette enabled it to maintain high-speed navigation.The navy 
said the tests checked whether the engine can meet the requirements of 
traveling at high and low speeds.The vessel was scheduled to dock at 
Suao military port. 
Assembly and testing of its Hsiung Feng II and Hsiung
 Feng III anti-ship missiles are to be carried out before the navy puts 
the vessel through nine months of tactical testing. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Women in the Singapore Armed Forces
 
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Taiwan’s stealth missile corvette : Tuo Chiang Class

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Three types China Vertical Launch Systems

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Type 052D 
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  CCL Multi-role Vertical Launch Systems (VLS) 052D DDG 
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Type 052C 
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  HHQ-9 cold-launched VLS system (052C DDG) 
 
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SA-N-6 cold-launched VLS system (051C DDG) 
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Three types China Vertical Launch Systems

Type 052D CCL Multi-role Vertical Launch Systems (VLS) 052D DDG Type 052C HHQ-9 cold-launched VLS system (052C DDG)...

Tenth Zhuhai International Airshow, November 11-16, 2014

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Tenth Zhuhai International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, in Guangdong Province, will be held November 11-16. 
Around 130 aircrafts including J-31, Airbus A380, AC313, ARJ21-700, J-10, Hercules C-130, Globemaster C-17, IL-76 will be display. 
 
 
J-31 fighters to be display in Zhuhai Airshow. 
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August 1st or 81st Aerobatics Team 
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Lu Hangwu becomes first female WZ-10 attack helicopter pilot 
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J-31 fighters preparing to display in Zhuhai Airshow 2014
 
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CATAMARAN 2014 joint amphibious exercise French Navy 
 
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Antares Rocket Explodes During Take Off.

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An Orbital Science/NASA rocket carrying third delivery of 5,000 pounds of supplies such as food, tools, parts and experiments exploded it was launched at Nasa’s Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia Tuesday night.
 
 
 
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Antares Rocket Explodes! 
 
An unmanned rocket carrying supplies to the International Space Station has exploded seconds after lift-off. ASA TV footage showed the Antares rocket, built and launched by Orbital Sciences Corp, bolting off its seaside launch pad at the Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia and exploding seconds later. he cause of the accident is not yet known. 
 
 
 
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UK, Royal Marines 350th Anniversary 
 
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Euronaval 2014 : 27-31 October 2014
 
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Comparable TYPE 214 SUB VS AMUR 1650 SUB

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1.INTRODUCTION 
 
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AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
• It is a new 4th gen diesel electric ,export version submarine which is have been laid down at the Admiralteiskiye Verfi 
state-owned shipyard in St. Petersburg.Designed to destroy hostile 
submarines and surface ships, to protect friendly naval bases, 
seacoast and communications, as well as to carry out reconnaissance 
missions. 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
• The Type 214 is a diesel-electric submarine developed by 
Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW). It features diesel propulsion
 with an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system using Siemens polymer 
electrolyte membrane (PEM) hydrogen fuel cells. The Type 214 submarine
 is derived from the Type 212, but as an export variant it lacks some of
 the classified technologies of its smaller predecessor. 
 
It is well equipped to undertake a wide scope of missions ranging from
 operations in littoral waters to ocean-going patrols. The modular 
weapon and sensor mix, in combination with the submarine's 
air-independent features, makes the Class 214 predestined for 
•anti-surface ship and anti-submarine operations 
•intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance tasks 
•Special Forces operations. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.hdw.de/en/class-214.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH</a> 
 
 
2.SIZE 
<img alt="[IMG]" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" height="640" src="http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/somnath30/SIZE.jpg" width="538" /> 
 
AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
• surface displacement: 1765 m³ /1,675 tons 
• Submerged displacement:2500-2600 m³/2,800 tons 
• length: 66.8 m 
• pressure hull diameter: 7.1 m 
• Height :8.2m 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/fileadmin/editor/listovki/Amur_1650_eng.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/fileadmin/editor/listovki/Amur_1650_eng.pdf</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/677.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amur / Lada Class - Project 677</a> 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
 
• surface displacement:1,690 t (surface) 
• Submerged displacement:1,860 t (Submerged) 
• length: 213 feet 3 inches (65 m) 
• pressure hull diameter: 20 feet 8 inches (6.3 m) 
• Height :19 feet 8 inches (6 m) 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_214_submarine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 214 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.jeuxfrancophone.com/francois/smfiles/212-214-Scorp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scorpene vs T-212 vs T-214</a> 
 
so amur 1650 is considerably larger sub than type 214 sub 
 
 
3.PERFORMANCE 
 
<img alt="[IMG]" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" height="640" src="http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/somnath30/performance.jpg" width="515" /> 
 
 AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
• Speed:19 kts (submerged) 
• Diving depth:300m-(maximum) 
• Range: (AIP) 300 -500 nm 
<img alt=":(" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" src="http://defence.pk/styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" title="Frown :(" />snorkel),4000 -6000nm 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/fileadmin/editor/listovki/Amur_1650_eng.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/fileadmin/editor/listovki/Amur_1650_eng.pdf</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/677.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amur / Lada Class - Project 677</a> 
 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
 
• Speed:20 kt submerged / fuel cells: 2-6 kt estimated 
• Diving depth: more than 250 m officially, 400 m estimated 
• Range: 420 nmi @ 8 kt (780 km @ 15 km/h) submerged 
: 1,248 nmi @ 4 kt (2,310 km @ 7 km/h) fuel cells 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_214_submarine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 214 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
 
so type 214 has much better performance in terms of range & speed & DIVING DEPTH as compare to AMUR 1650 SUB 
 
 
4.STRUCTURE 
 
<img alt="[IMG]" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" src="http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/somnath30/STRUCTURE.jpg" /> 
 
AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
 
•Amur 1650 is a single-hull, single-shaft submarine with two reserve propulsors. 
 
•The submarine has a solid hull made of unique highstrength steel alloys, 
 
•According to Rubin, the ship features a new efficient antisonar coating of the hull new generation “Molniya” (“Lightning”). 
 
•The submarine hull also has a new multi-layered rubber cover providing almost complete absorption of own noises 
generated by submarine mechanisms, and sonar echo signals. 
 
• The submarine, its propulsion plant, machinery and weapons systems can
 be controlled either from the main control room or from separate 
battle stations. 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/navy/navy_10-14.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/navy/navy_10-14.pdf</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://spsnavalforces.net/ebook/21032011.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://spsnavalforces.net/ebook/21032011.pdf</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://militaryforces.ru/weapon-2-26-164.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Russian Military Forces | Aviation | Navy | Infantry firearms | Communications | Ground systems | Weapon photogallery</a> 
 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
 
•Type 214 is a single hull,& made up of HY-80/HY-100 High Tensile steel 
 
•A hull shape, which has been 
further optimised for hydrodynamic and stealth characteristics, and a 
low-noise propeller combine to decrease the submarine's acoustic 
signature. 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/type_212/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">U212 / U214 - Naval Technology</a> 
 
well structurally both are built keeping
 stealth as top priority in construction ,but AMUR 1650 external 
structure coating is better compare to type 214 ,while Type 214 hull 
sectioning & shaping are more stealth optimized than AMUR 1650 
 
 
5.PROPULSION 
 
<img alt="[IMG]" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" src="http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/somnath30/propulsion.jpg" /> 
 
AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
 
• The submarine's propulsion system integrates two
 diesel generators, a main electric propulsion motor, two air 
independent propulsion (AIP) systems and a single shaft driving on a
 skewed seven-bladed propeller 
 
• An Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system based on oxygen-hydrogen 
fuel cells is being offered for Amur-class submarines as option to 
achieve extended immersion endurance. 
 
 
• The new diesel-electric propulsion system is arranged in a modular 
compartment which can be plugged into the basic submarine. A 
radio electronic equipment of a new generation, variable-speed 
permanent-magnet propulsion motor and storage battery with increased
 service life are provided to the 4th generation Russian non-nuclear 
submarine. 
 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/project-677-lada-class-project-1650-amur-class-submarines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Project 677 Lada Class / Project 1650 Amur Class Submarines - Naval Technology</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.deagel.com/Conventional-Attack-Submarines/Amur-1650_a000362002.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amur 1650</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/677.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amur / Lada Class - Project 677</a> 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
 
• In the current design, propulsion is provided by two
 MTU 16 V 396 engines (2,000 kW) serving a 600-900 V propulsion battery 
with a fully integrated auxiliary AIP system based on two PEM (polymer 
electrolyte membrane ) 120 kW fuel cell modules. 
 
• The propulsion motor is a Siemens Permasyn
 (type FR6439-3900 KW) low-speed permanently excited electric motor 
driving a Low-noise, skewback 7- blade propeller. 
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<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.jeuxfrancophone.com/francois/smfiles/212-214-Scorp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scorpene vs T-212 vs T-214</a> 
 
• It has an electrical propulsion system based on a silver oxide and aluminium battery. 
 
well TYPE 214 SUBMARINE has much better 
propulsion than AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE thanks to it's better & 
efficient AIP system although both have skewed seven-bladed propeller . 
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6.AIP SYSTEM (POWER SUPPLY) 
 
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AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
 
• The provision is made for the boat to be fitted with an 
air-independent propulsion plant with electrochemical generators to 
considerably increase submerged endurance and cruising range. The plant 
with stock of reagents is located in a special compartment 
module, which can be incorporated into the submarine during construction
 or repair / refit. 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/en/projects/naval_engineering/conventional_submarines/amur_1650/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ð¦ÐšÐ‘ ÐœÐ¢ Ð ÑƒÐ±Ð¸Ð½: Amur 1650</a> 
 
•. According to estimates, Kristall-27E AIP system will increase the Amur Class submarines' submerged endurance by 15 to 45 days (the longer endurance is ensured by a short-term operation of the diesel engine in the snorkeling mode). 
 
•The Kristall-27E AIP plant, featuring the intermetallid storage of 
hydrogen, cryogenic storage of oxygen and low-temperature 
electrochemical generator with alkali matrix electrolyte, fully meets 
all requirements including those of fire/detonation safety, and can 
beat the AIP system of Project 212 submarines, surpassing it in terms of
 fuel efficiency and shore-based support facilities due to the 
availability of dedicated autonomous shore-based refueling complex. 
 
•The shore-based refueling complex does not integrally belong to the AIP
 system. However, it can be supplied optionally: this feature 
contributes to the competitiveness of the Russian project. Customer will
 receive in a single package the autonomous refueling complex which 
will provide hydrogen and oxygen for the submarine's AIP system in peace
 and war time 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://milparade.udm.ru/29/022.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Military Parade Issue 29 (Sep.-Oct. '98)</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/kristall-aip-submarine-alternative-t50360.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kristall AIP Submarine an Alternative</a> 
 
 
RECENT UPDATES 
 
•TsKB Rubin is testing an AIP generator for submarines, RIAN reported in
 Sep 13 according to Rubin's Gen Director Andrey Dyachkov. He 
criticized the German hydrogen elements for flammability of their 
storage. The currently developed Russian AIP is built on the same 
electro-chemical generation principle, as hydrogen elements, but uses 
different less flammable reagents. The chemical ingredients used in the
 new AIP are not disclosed however. Like foreign analogs the last 
Russian AIP is built in plug-in module. Dyachkov also said Rubin is 
working in parallel to improve the lithium-ion batteries for subs. 
Currently the installation of lithium-ion batteries allows to make 
underwater time longer on 40%, while it's only 35-40% of the 
theoretically limits of this technology. 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
• Performance of the AIP system has been increased withtwo Siemens PEM fuel cells which produce 120kW per module 
 
• In Type 214 submarines the two BZM 120 fuel cell modules are connected to the ship’s power system via a DC/DC converter 
allowing adaptation of the fuel cell power plant to different battery voltage levels .This becomes 
important in retrofit projects in which an integrated fuel cell system, consisting of the fuel cells, oxygen and hydrogen 
storage tanks, control system, process equipment and product water 
tanks,is integrated into an already existing submarine during a major 
overhaul. 
 
• These service proven components completely satisfy military specification requirements with respect to magnetic signature, 
low electrical stray field characteristics, system safety standards, acoustic properties, and shock/vibration criteria. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.sea.siemens.com/us/internet-dms/Internet/MarineComm/General/Docs/Siemens%20Presents%20Fuel%20Cell%20at%20the%20Advance%20Naval%20Propulsion%20Symposium.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.sea.siemens.com/us/inter...at the Advance Naval Propulsion Symposium.pdf</a> 
 
• Endurance: 3 weeks without snorkeling, 12 weeks overall 
Using the AIP system on submerged patrol and intercept missions 
enables the boat to remain submerged for up to 13 days at a speed of 4 
kt. Submerged sprint speeds of between 16 and 20+ kt are possible for 
periods of a few hours several times during a 50 day mission. At a 
speed of 6 kt the mission range is almost 12,000 n miles. Endurance will
 be 84 days.The fuel cell works at an operating temperature of 70 to 
80ºC, which makes the submarine difficult to detect using external heat 
sensors. 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://s7.invisionfree.com/worldconflictsforum/ar/t109.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hellenic U214 pics (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)</a> 
 
Regarding AIP system TYPE 214 SUBMARINE has a
 better Siemens PEM fuel cells(BZM 120)AIP system which give sub much 
more endurance days & energy efficient AIP system as compare to AMUR
 1650 SUBMARINE's Kristall-27E AIP system.But russian AIP systems are 
claimed to be more safer as compare to german AIP system as they use 
less flammable reagents as claimed by russians.Russians are now 
currently working & developing 3rd gen AIP system which can give 
them nearly 90 days endurance 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://milparade.udm.ru/29/022.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Military Parade Issue 29 (Sep.-Oct. '98)</a> 
 
 
7.SENSOR SYSTEMS 
 
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AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
(I)SONARS: 
• The sonar system comprises highly sensitive passive transducers and 
electronic equipment, which make it possible to detect even low-noise 
submarines and surface ships at long ranges. The submarine carries a 
towed transducer, which is dispensed from the top vertical tail fin. 
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• The sonar complex is outfitted with a highly sensitive passive array, 
the area of which exceeds the area of array on the previous generation
 submarines by several times. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.deagel.com/Conventional-Attack-Submarines/Amur-1650_a000362002.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amur 1650</a> 
 
• Technology has been developed and mastered for installation of a 
quasi-conformal (abutting to the hull of the submarine) antenna of “LIRA”
 sonar system;The Lira sonar system with quasi-conformal (abutting the 
hull of the submarine) antenna can detect low-noise targets located at 
long ranges. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.admship.ru/en/19" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Admiralty Shipyards - AMUR Submarine</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/project-677-lada-class-project-1650-amur-class-submarines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Project 677 Lada Class / Project 1650 Amur Class Submarines - Naval Technology</a> 
 
 
(II)ELECTRONICs : 
• The radar system is equipped with passive and active antennas arranged
 on the non-penetrating mast. The radar system furnishes surface 
situation data, detects and classifies targets, as well as generates 
targeting and IFF data. 
 
• The commander’s periscope has two channels: optical and TV. A 
multipurpose periscope (optronic mast) is of a non- penetrating type. 
It has a thermal imager and a laser range finder. The boat’s 
communications facilities provide for reliable communication, both 
underwater and on the surface, with shore-based installations, ships and
 aircraft. 
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• Submarine and its weapons are efficiently controlled by automated 
command and control system with operators’ consoles in the main 
control room. The system provides highspeed sensor data exchange, 
processing,analysis, and presentation of 
the integrated information on operators’panels. 
 
• The onboard inertial navigation system ensures safe navigation and determination of submarine motion parameters with 
precision required for missile employment. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/navy/navy_10-14.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/navy/navy_10-14.pdf</a> 
 
• The submarine is fitted with Litiy automated combat control system. The integrated system controls the combat and technical systems of the submarine. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/project-677-lada-class-project-1650-amur-class-submarines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Project 677 Lada Class / Project 1650 Amur Class Submarines - Naval Technology</a> 
 
• The countermeasures are provided by the electronic support measures 
(ESM) system, radar warning receiver and direction finder. 
 
• Accordingly, the Amur 1650’s communications system is equipped to 
pick up command and information messages at a depth of up to 100 
meters. 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
(I)SONARS: 
• The sonar suite CSU 90 (DBQS-40FTC) includes following types of sonar: 
* cylindrical array (CAH) for medium frequency passive detection 
* FAS-3-1 flank array sonar for low/medium-frequency detection 
* thin line towed array (TAS) for low frequencies in a medium self-noise environment (fitted for) 
* passive ranging sonar PRS-3-15 for calculation of target data 
* active sonar (CTA) , for determination of target range and bearing. 
* Intercept array sonar for detection of active emissions of surface ships. 
* The active high-frequency mine detection sonar (MAS) is the MOA 3070. 
 
(II)ELECTRONICs : 
• The command, sensor and weapon control outfit comprises the STN ATLAS Elektronik ISUS 90-15 system upgraded to provide increased low frequency detection range. 
 
• It has SPHINX-D with 4Kw pulse and tactical LPI radar sensor
 by Thales Defence Deutschland GmbH in Kiel. It uses an additional 
pulse transmitter in the top of the mast.The radar sensor is a FMCW 
transceiver which can't be detected by ESM systems in medium terms. 
This technology is so called LPI radar, which means "Low probability 
of intercept". The transmitting power is lower than the power of a 
mobile phone but the resolution more precise compared to high power 
Pulse radar. Thales SPHINX radar is a tactical radar, designed for 
submarines. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_214_submarine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 214 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
 
 
• It is equipped with an attack periscope, an electro-optic mast OMS-100
 (both manufactured by Zeiss) . The optronic mast will be equipped 
by thermal camera , laser range finder and low lightness TV (LLLTV) . 
 
Periscopes: Carl Zeiss SERO 14, with FLIR and optical rangefinder 
Carl Zeiss SERO 15, with laser rangefinder 
 
• Decoys:TAU 2000 torpedo countermeasures system 
 
A consortium led by STN ATLAS Elektronik and Allied Signal ELAC is 
responsible for the development of the TAU 2000 torpedo countermeasures
 system. TAU 2000 has four launch containers, each with up to ten 
discharge tubes equipped with effectors. The effectors are small 
underwater vehicles, similar in appearance to a torpedo. The effectors 
are jammers and decoys with hydrophones and acoustic emitters. 
Multiple effectors are deployed in order to counter torpedoes in 
re-attack mode.In the occasion of upcoming torpedo 3 jammers and 2 
decoys will be fired from the system. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.jeuxfrancophone.com/francois/smfiles/212-214-Scorp.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scorpene vs T-212 vs T-214</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://s7.invisionfree.com/worldconflictsforum/ar/t109.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hellenic U214 pics (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://cakra401.blogspot.com/2009/11/u212-u214-attack-submarines.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cakra 401 SubMarine: U212 / U214 Attack Submarines</a> 
 
• ESM:TIMNEX II(Elbit) 
Elbit Systems' TIMNEX submarine ESM/ELINT system is an advanced 
tactical & intelligence gathering system. The unique receiver 
technology offers excellent sensitivity to detect, analyze, identify and
 counter a full spectrum of sophisticated emitters in extremely dense
 electromagnetic environments. 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://s7.invisionfree.com/worldconflictsforum/ar/t109.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hellenic U214 pics (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.elbitsystems.com/elbitmain/area-in2.asp?parent=10&num=87&num2=87" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elbit</a> 
 
• Other systems include inertial platform, attitude and heading 
reference equipment, EM-log, echo-sounder and GPS. All sensors and 
weapons are controlled via five multipurpose consoles of the ISUS 90-15. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://s7.invisionfree.com/worldconflictsforum/ar/t109.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hellenic U214 pics (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)</a> 
 
well regarding sensor system ,here TYPE 214 
SUBMARINE has a clear edge over AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE. As TYPE 214 SUB's 
sonar suite CSU 90 (DBQS-40FTC) is technologically highly superior to 
AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE's LIRA sonar system . 
TYPE 214 SUB's SPHINX-D with 4Kw pulse and tactical LPI radar sensor is a
 cutting edge technolgy .& also addition TAU 2000 torpedo 
countermeasures system & Electronic Support Measures :TIMNEX 
II(Elbit)adds more teeth to it's capabilty . 
SO here AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE is completly overwhelmed TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
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8.CREW CAPACITY & PROVISION 
 
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AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
 
• Crew: 35 
 
• The submarine design takes into account the ecological requirements. 
Provision is made for installing the equipment used to clean bilge 
water from oil products, decontamination of wastewater, briquetting of 
rubbish and food cans, as well as 
crushing of garbage. 
 
• The submarine’s crew is accommodated in comfortable cabins. The boat 
has a dinette, pantry, air-conditioners, air cleaners and 
regenerators. 
 
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TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
• Crew: 
27 (including five officers) 
 
• The Type 214 can carry food, fresh water and fuel for 84 days of operation. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://cakra401.blogspot.com/2009/11/u212-u214-attack-submarines.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cakra 401 SubMarine: U212 / U214 Attack Submarines</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://s7.invisionfree.com/worldconflictsforum/ar/t109.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hellenic U214 pics (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)</a> 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_214_submarine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 214 submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
 
Well TYPE 214 SUBMARINE has less crew 
members compare to AMUR 1650 SUb & both have almost same comfort 
& provisions .Well one can only point out 19-20 difference between 
the two on this ground . 
 
 
 
9.FIRE POWER 
 
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AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
• The boat is distinguished by the capability of firing up to 6 missiles in a salvo from all Torpedo Tubes
 at the bow against sea and fixed land targets state-of-the-art 
electronic warfare systems and a sonar with a unique passive antenna to
 detect silent targets at a large range. 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.ckb-rubin.ru/en/projects/naval_engineering/conventional_submarines/amur_1650/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ð¦ÐšÐ‘ ÐœÐ¢ Ð ÑƒÐ±Ð¸Ð½: Amur 1650</a> 
 
•These ships may be fitted with vertical launch missile silos if customer demanded 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.deagel.com/Conventional-Attack-Submarines/Amur-1650_a000362002.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Amur 1650</a> 
 
• The submarine’s armament includes multipurpose torpedoes, 
antisubmarine rocket-assisted torpedoes, cruise missiles and mines. 
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• TORPEDOES: It has 6 x 533mm torpedo launchers/tubes & can carry 18 TORPEDOES (533) 
 i)VA-111 Shkval supercavitating torpedoes. They are capable of speeds in excess of 200 knots 
 All current versions are believed to be fitted only with conventional explosive warheads, 
 Range: Around 7 km to 13 km (new version). 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://milit.ru/677.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Diesel-Electric Torpedo Submarine 677 Lada/1650 Amur class</a> 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VA-111 Shkval - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
 
• MISSILES : i)Brahmos supersonic AsCM/LACM , 
 range:290km either tube launched (most likely) or vertical launched on demand 
 Flight altitude:	Sea-skimming as low as 10 m (30 feet) 
 speed:Mach 2.8-3.0 
 Warhead:	300 kg Conventional semi-armour-piercing 
 
 ii)Klub S AsCM/LACM/ anti submarine missile (91RE1 / 91RE2) 
 range: 275-300 km tube launched 
 Flight altitude:10-15 m 
 speed:0.8-2.5-2.9 mach flies at subsonic speeds while going supersonic as it nears its target. 
 Warhead:Conventional semi-armour-piercing 
 
 
 
• MINES : PMK-2 ANTI-SUBMARINE MINE SYSTEM 
 The caliber of the PMK-2 weapon is 533 mm and its length is not
 more than 6 m. The distinguishing feature of these systems 
is that though they are basically active mines, they attack targets 
themselves. The equipment of these mine systems detects and 
classifies an underwater target, determines its course and running 
depth, optimizes the target intercept trajectory and generates a
 command to launch either a rocket, which runs at a speed of about 80 
m/s, or torpedo. 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://milit.ru/mines.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sea Mines</a> 
 
TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
• It has 8 x 533mm torpedo tubes & All 
tubes can launch torpedoes and four are configured with weapon expulsion
 system supporting missiles. 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://defense-update.com/products/t/type214.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 214 Submarine</a> 
 
• TORPEDOES: SEEHECHT ( Sea Hake )/DM2A4 mod 4 Torpedo (With eight torpedoes positioned ready & total payload of 16.) 
 It features an advanced electrical propulsion system and a fiber optic 
cable for torpedo guidance and communication, which, in conjunction 
with advanced signals processing and mission logic, makes the torpedo 
largely countermeasure resistant. 
 The DM2A4/SeaHake mod 4 is the first torpedo ever to be guided by a fiber optic wire. 
 The weapon has a modular design that includes up to four silver zinc 
battery modules and is able to achieve a range of more than 50 km (27 
nm) and a speed exceeding 92.6 km/h (50 kt) powered by a high frequency 
permanent magnet motor, with a closed-loop cooling system independent 
from the environment. 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DM2A4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">DM2A4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
 The DM2A4 differs to an appreciable degree from the predecessor model, 
the DM2A3. The innovations include the extremely powerful electrical 
propulsion system, the control and data transmission via fibre-optic 
instead of copper cable, the replacement of the mechanical gyro by a 
strap-down system using fibre-optic gyros, and the wake homing sensors. 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/197/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">defence.professionals | defpro.com</a> 
 
• MISSILES : i)IDAS short-range missile 
 IDAS (Interactive Defence and Attack System for Submarines) is a 
short-range missile currently being developed for the new Type 212 
submarine class of the German Navy.IDAS (based on the IRIS-T air-to-air 
missile) is primarily targeted against air threats, such as ASW 
helicopters, but also against small or medium-sized surface vessels or 
coastal land targets. IDAS will be fibre-optic guided and officially 
has a range of approx. 20 km. Four missiles will fit in one torpedo 
tube, stored in a magazine. 
 The IDAS system is also the world's first missile which gives 
submarines the capability to engage air threats whilst submerged, and 
the first tube-launched missile that does not emerge in a capsule, but 
is fired directly from the torpedo tubes. 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDAS_%28missile%29" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IDAS (missile) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.europeansecurityanddefence.info/Ausgaben/2008/3_2008/06_Bredick/Bredick_ESD_0308.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.europeansecurityanddefence.info/Ausgaben/2008/3_2008/06_Bredick/Bredick_ESD_0308.pdf</a> 
 
 ii) Sub harpoon 
 
 Harpoon is an all-weather, over-the-horizon, anti-ship missile 
system, the UGM-84, fitted with a solid-fuel rocket booster and 
encapsulated in a container to enable submerged launch through a torpedo
 tube 
 •Range : RGM/UGM-84D (Block 1C): 140 km (75 nmi) 
 •Speed: High subsonic, around 850 km/h (460 knots, 240 m/s, or 530 mph) 
 •Guidance: Sea-skimming cruise monitored by radar altimeter, active radar terminal homing 
 •Warhead: 221 kilograms (490 lb), penetration high-explosive blast 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/type-214-specs.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 214</a> 
 
• MINES :24 external naval mines (optional) 
 
 AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE has a advantage of 
supersonic ANTISHIP cruise missile /LACM likes of brahmos over TYPE 214 
SUB & that too at capabilty of firing SIX missiles in a salvo,while 
it gives an extra option Of VLS capability too on demand of 
customer.While Type 214 sub lacks an effective antiship cruise/lacm 
having sub sonic SUB HARPOON missile & it can only do that with 4 
tubes While AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE has 18 torpedoes capabilty & TYPE 
214 SUB has 16 torpedoes capabilty while skhval torpedoes are more 
faster & has less range compare to DM2A4 mod 4 Torpedo so advantage 
nullified for amur 1650 sub against TYPE 214 SUB.While mines capabilty 
AMUR 1650 has the advantage ,but one thing that clearly gives TYPE 214 
SUB a unique capabilty is the ability to launch to engage air threats 
whilst submerged, and to have the first tube-launched missile that 
does not emerge in a capsule, but is fired directly from the torpedo 
tubes through IDAS missile, which AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE doesnt have . 
 
SO overall AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE has more fire power than TYPE 214 SUB thanks to brahmos missile & also with VLS capability 
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10.STEALTH 
 
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AMUR 1650 SUBMARINE 
 
• The low noise level of the submarine’s equipment and systemic 
utilization of advanced acoustic protection facilities provide for 
reduction of the noise level produced by Amur-1650 by several times than
 that of other submarines of this class. 
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• A new technology has been introduced for application of the anti-sonar coating of the new generation “Molniya” (“Lightning”). 
 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.admship.ru/en/19" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Admiralty Shipyards - AMUR Submarine</a> 
 
• The AIP system based on oxygen / hydrogen fuel cells increases the 
Lada Class submerged endurance from 15 to 45 days. It also reduces 
noise by avoiding the need for frequent battery recharge by diesel 
generators. 
 
• An anechoic tile coating on the outer hull reduces noise & a skewed seven-bladed propeller. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://army.russiansabroad.com/detail.aspx?id=navy&detail=amur1650" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://army.russiansabroad.com/detail.aspx?id=navy&detail=amur1650</a> 
 
• According to Russian reports, it is one of the most quiet and lethal submarines ever built.

TYPE 214 SUBMARINE 
 
• A hull shape, which has been further optimised for hydrodynamic and stealth characteristics, and a low-noise propeller
 combine to decrease the submarine's acoustic signature.Thus, the 
hull design and its hydrodynamic form emphasise stealth 
capabilities, offering good low signature features including both 
self-generated noise and flow noise and magnetic signature. 
 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/type_212/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">U212 / U214 - Naval Technology</a> 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://s7.invisionfree.com/worldconflictsforum/ar/t109.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hellenic U214 pics (Greek Turkish Affairs Forum)</a> 
 
 
• The propelling power is provided by a seven-blade Skew-Back propeller 
whose extremely low rotation speed prevents cavity and which 
gener*ates thrust silently even at high speeds. 
 
• SPHINX Radar System is a FMCW transceiver
 which can't be detected by ESM systems in medium terms. This technology
 is so called LPI radar, which means "Low probability of intercept".
 The transmitting power is lower than the power of a mobile phone 
but the resolution more precise compared to high power Pulse radar. 
Thales SPHINX radar is a tactical radar, designed for submarines. 
 
 
• A submarine that uses fuel cells rather than a diesel engine to 
recharge its batteries produces much less sound while doing and 
consequently the effective detection range of many of the current 
passive acoustic sonobuoys is reduced. 
 Using the Siemens PEM fuel cells enabled AIP system
 the Type 214 sub on submerged patrol and intercept missions enables 
 the boat to remain submerged for up to 13 days at a speed of 4 kt. 
Submerged sprint speeds of between 16 and 20+ kt are possible for 
periods of a few hours several times during a 50 day mission. At a speed
 of 6 kt the mission range is almost 12,000 n miles. Endurance will 
be 84 days.The fuel cell works at an operating temperature of 70 to 
80ºC, which makes the submarine difficult to detect using external 
heat sensors. 
 
so both sub are designed specifically bearing in stealth in mind ,while AMUR 1650 SUB has better suface coating & materials 
while TYPE 214 SUB has better AIP & LPI sphinx radar along with 
stealthy hull cross section & shaping which gives Type 214 
a edge over amur 1650 in terms of stealth . 
 
 
CONCLUSION 
 
Well before jumping into conclusion we should take into consideration 
those negative points which are alleged against TYPE 214 SUBMARINE like 
1. Hellenic navy reported many problems 
 * instability while traveling on the surface, the boat rolls excessively in bad weather. 
 * Attack periscope vibrates at speeds greater than 3 knots; 
 * The air-independent propulsion system has lower output power than 
specified; the unit must be shut down after several hours of 
sailing due to higher than normal operating temperatures; 
 * Increased propeller cavitations; 
 * Seawater leakage into hydraulic systems; 
 * Problems with the proper function of the flank arrays. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.navyleague.org/sea_power/dec06-52.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Navy League of the United States - Citizens in Support of the Sea Services</a> 
well one may argue that these are deliberate tactics by greece which had
 bankrupt economy & couldnt afford to procure such sub so that to 
avoid payment for these subs by giving these excuses.But irony is korea 
also had some similar problems but 
majority of them have been resolved . 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2008/03/15/2008031500137.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">? ?? &#39; ?&#39; - 1 ??</a> 
While these problems in the South Korean Type 214s have been reportedly 
resolved, the noise level has yet to be reduced as promised by HDW. The 
company was fined $4.1 million by DAPA in February 2008 for ongoing 
technical problems. In November, a South Korean National Assembly 
demanded price reductions for the remaining six submarines, arguing that
 HDW was using the South Korean market to correct faults in the Type 214
 to increase the submarine's overall international export potential. It 
is uncertain if DAPA received a price reduction for the fourth unit when
 it was contracted to DSME. 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.seapower-digital.com/seapower/seapower_sample/?pg=52#pg52" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Seapower - February 2008</a>. 
But all in all many problems in TYPE 214 has been resolved . 
 
 
LAYMAN'S REPORT CARD 
<img alt="[IMG]" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" src="http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i441/somnath30/comparision1.jpg" /> 
 
So one can clearly see that TYPE 214 sub 
excels in allmost all department in comparision to AMUR 1650 sub, 
leaving aside certain few departments . 
 Well clear advantage AMUR 1650 SUB has over TYPE 214 sub is 
* SIZE 
* FIRE POWER (BRAHMOS MISSILE) 
* VLS CAPABILITY 
 
Well that criteria is also going to be overcomed as HDW has started development of TYPE 216 SUB to fullfill the criteria of 
INDIAN NAVY's PROJECT 75 I programme 
 
 
TYPE 216 SUB 
<img alt="[IMG]" class="bbCodeImage LbImage" src="http://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/oceania/australia/submarines/type_216_hdw_u_216/HDW_type216_type_216_U-216_ssk_top.jpg" /> 
 
EXTRA FEATURES 
 
• Bigger size Length: 89 m; Breadth: 8.1 m ;Maximum Draft: 6.6 m 
 
• Double hull design. 
 
• AIP system enabled which gives it endurance of 80 days same as nuclear sub 
 
• Vertical Launch System (2.5 m diameter to deploy cruise missiles or UUV) 
 
• Swimmer Delivery Vehicle (SDV) to deploy special forces 
 
<a class="externalLink" href="http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=264" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Type 216 / U-216 Conventional Submarine SSK</a> 
 <a class="externalLink" href="http://submarinersworld.blogspot.com/2012/01/german-type-216-u-216-conventional.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Submariners World: German - Type 216 / U-216 Conventional Submarine (SSK)</a> 
 
Well India can also make provision to have brahmos fitted into TYPE 216 
also ,and later it can also be armed with NIRBHAY Sub launched LACM 
missile.So with all the extra features & correction of almost all 
faults from TYPE 214 sub , HDW's next 
gen TYPE 216 SUB looks the best eligible contender for INDIAN NAVY's PROJECT 75 I programme. 
 
FROM THE AUTHOR: 
 I had tried my level best to present & give as much accurate information on both the subs i could find .Well 
after all this is a layman's analysis not professional so mistakes can 
 also happen ,& i would welcome all ur views & suggestion if i 
am wrong on any grounds. 
I hope everyone would like & appreciate my hard work & most 
importantly distinguish which SUB suits our future defence needs 
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